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Old Nov 08, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11   #1
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I dont know if this build has been used yet but its something i just thought of and it works great for me in pvp not much of a pve build it can work but any way here is my Necro/Mes i am very happy about this build but also a little troubled becuase i have not found a position for this build in a big build or group of other chars so if u guys could try and help me find a spot for this one that would be nice. So now to the build:

Necro/Mes

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12 Domination
rest into insperation

Just use a staff with +life and +enery works great

Eilte Needed: Soul Leech

Blood Skills Needed: Shadow Strike, Vampiric Gaze, Life Siphon, and Blood Renewal

Domination Skills Needed: Backfire, Power Spike (Sometimes i like to replace with rez sig but u can do wt u want)

Inspiration Skills Needed: Energy Tap

Type of Armor: I like to use the Scar armor for max energy and i think it works the best but u are free to try other armors and tell me how they worked but i have no problems with the Scar armor.

runes needed: Sup Blood

Now What To Do: This build made to kill casters but is can also kill warriors and rangers. The goal when vsing a caster is to use soul leech first and then put on backfire. Then add life siphon (right about here i use blood renewal just in case somthing should go worng but u can use when u want try to use when u get degen on use or a warrior), after that use yr shadow strike (this will do 100 damage and give u 50 life if yr foes life is above half still), then hit them with vap gaze that will do about 62 damage, about this time they should be dead are almost dead and they should die really fast.

If a warrior comes along: For warriors it is VERY IMPORTANT to use Blood renewal and then add life siphon on this will give u health regen of 9 for 10 sec and when blood renewal ends it will give u 200 health then just use it again. For warriors U DO NOT USE BACKFIRE OR SOUL LEECH UN LESS its a casting warrior (for some reason) use yr shadow strike and vamp gave on them and if a w/mo and they try to rez use power spike to make them mad but u should be able to take almost any warrior one on one easy.

Things to look out for with this build: distracting rangers, mana stealing mes that piss me off.

Well have fun and if u see anything that can imporve this build plz post it i would like to see.

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Old Nov 08, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29   #2
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So, basically, you're a shutdown mesmer using a superior blood rune for a bit more damage instead of using fast cast and guilt/shame to actually be a succesful shutdown build?

I'm not seeing the value proposition here.
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #3
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Well mostly but the thing with this build is that u can ethier take casters or tanks.You can change your tactics with this build leaving it very optional to kill many things. Unlike a Shutdown Mes you can take the Caster or the tank.
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 06:37 AM // 06:37   #4
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how can u have soul leech and life transfer at the same time?
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 06:40 AM // 06:40   #5
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I think he meant Life Siphon.
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 06:40 AM // 06:40   #6
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There is no life Transfer. There is life Siphon.
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Old Nov 08, 2005, 06:41 AM // 06:41   #7
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Lol. You can't. I think he meant Life Siphon.
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Old Nov 19, 2005, 04:46 AM // 04:46   #8
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you guys cant you read it says life siphon and life transfer omfg
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Old Nov 19, 2005, 06:10 AM // 06:10   #9
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switch your classes then you got a real shutdown
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Old Nov 19, 2005, 07:18 AM // 07:18   #10
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Well mostly but the thing with this build is that u can ethier take casters or tanks.You can change your tactics with this build leaving it very optional to kill many things. Unlike a Shutdown Mes you can take the Caster or the tank.
How do you take "tanks", exactly? Blood Renewal and a bit of lifesteal? Good luck with that...
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Old Nov 22, 2005, 04:55 PM // 16:55   #11
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[QUOTE=Your Date]If a warrior comes along: For warriors it is VERY IMPORTANT to use Blood renewal and then add life siphon on this will give u health regen of 9 for 10 sec and when blood renewal ends it will give u 200 health then just use it again. For warriors U DO NOT USE BACKFIRE OR SOUL LEECH UN LESS its a casting warrior (for some reason) use yr shadow strike and vamp gave on them and if a w/mo and they try to rez use power spike to make them mad but u should be able to take almost any warrior one on one easy.[QUOTE=Your Date]

see that is works trust me just try not to be a noob and sit there u just cant sit there or else u know u are going to die andi have tanked warrriors using this build it can be very easy if u can do it right but keep in mind this build is not for the noob players if u have no skill in pvp then u shouldnt use this build.
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Old Nov 22, 2005, 06:01 PM // 18:01   #12
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Alright.. This is my opinion:
You have mostly 10e energy cost spells and only energy tap to regain energy, which isn't a very effective spell anymore either. Consider more energy management.
Against a good warrior, +6 health regen and a health boost after 10 secs, Shadow Strike and Vampiric Gaze won't be enough to heal you. Especially not if he carries Savage Slash or any other interrupt. If you were able to tank warriors with this, you probably had smth like a curse necro or a monk on your team.
If you're going for Backfire to begin with (which isn't very reliable imo), it's usually enough to shut a caster down, no need to apply Soul Leech as well since no caster would want to cast through backfire unless he has Protective Spirit on himself. In which case you can remove it. I'd replace it with Offering of Blood for some extra energy.
Power Spike fills no function; you want him to cast spells in order to damage himself. Spike does not interrupt Ressurection Signet which is what they should be using. Replace it with a res sig...
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Old Nov 22, 2005, 10:18 PM // 22:18   #13
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I think Soul Leach+Backfire is an interesting idea. You really need to add Mark of Subversion in there and focus on the casters.

A good Blood Necro can take on a good warrior (or several bad ones) but I don't think you're going to be able to effectively deal with warriors and casters together. You need to pick one (probably casters with this build) and focus on that exclusively.
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